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Key Route System
Old map of Key Route system. Key's Berkeley trains to Sacramento Street are still "proposed". Thanks to Stash for forwarding this one over. Click on image a 2nd time to display full size image.
Key Route System
May 09, 2009
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[Sep 29, 2005 at 10:14 PM]
The image is certainly copyrighted and I'm certain that UC Berkeley doesn't want some foamer stealing their image, clipping off the UC Berkeley property tag, and posting it on their website without permission.
[Sep 07, 2005 at 06:43 AM]
It appears to be near the present McGee PG&E substation, and that's an old sub, so it might be a power feed point.
[Sep 23, 2005 at 05:04 AM]
Nothing from 1911 is still in copyright. So enough with the IP whinging.
[Aug 22, 2005 at 09:11 PM]
Sam, On the map,just west of Grove and next to the Sante Fe line and University Ave, there's a black circle. It's says something 'point'. What is that?
Old time rail fan
[Aug 23, 2005 at 01:55 AM]
I can make out feeding point. How's about a power feed point?
[Jun 06, 2005 at 01:30 AM]
When was this map issued?
[Jul 29, 2005 at 04:11 PM]
From 1911. This was pirated from UC Berkeley. This is a possible copywrite infringement.
[Jul 29, 2005 at 04:14 PM]
see it in its true glory at:
[Dec 20, 2005 at 08:21 AM]
Copyright for a document published 94 years ago? How charmingly ignorant!
[Aug 06, 2006 at 12:06 AM]
I grew up in Albany, and went to AHS on Key Route Blvd. Did the Key System ever run down between there? I've never seen it on any maps. There is a picture in the book "Valley Division Vignettes" by Jack Kreiger, but I can't tell exactly where it was. Thank you.
Jo Dee Massanari
[Mar 12, 2008 at 02:40 PM]
I live at 3244 Louise Street in West Oakland I was told by a cab driver that our house was a stop along the line and that the downstairs was a market. Is there anyway to find out if this is true? Thanks!
[Oct 21, 2008 at 12:54 PM]
Key Route Blvd in Albany: I read elsewhere that it was the route of the "planned but never built" extension of the G line.
[Oct 21, 2008 at 03:11 PM]
Here's a picture of Key Route Blvd. at Solano:
(There's also a "Key St." in El Cerrito that is probably related.)
[Mar 17, 2009 at 04:42 PM]
Nice stolen image. I agree with the guest post above. Not so much that the map is under copyright, but the digital image is. Geez, at least credit the owner.
[Mar 17, 2009 at 05:10 PM]
This map was scanned in from an original at the Oakland Library History Room. Nothing was "clipped" out or cropped. If it came from UC Berkeley, then somehow the Oakland Library got it, because that is where I obtained it (have never been to or even know where the UC Berkeley library is), and what you see is what was at the library. Sorry if it appears like it was "stolen". Hey maybe the Oakland Library stole it! Relax already.
[Nov 07, 2009 at 07:25 PM]
Nice picture - good to see that copyright is more important than history. Is the Arlington line on here? It's hard to make out where it would go.
[Mar 11, 2010 at 01:35 AM]
Um, re copyright: 1. 94 years old = Public Domain. 2. Digital image belongs to Cal? Cal belongs to taxpayers. All your scan are belong to us.
[Dec 18, 2012 at 08:18 AM]
You do not get a copyright on a scan of public domain material. Mere reproduction does not grant new copyright. If you use the original in part of a new creation, then that overall creation can be copyrighted but not those public domain segments.
A scan adds no new information. Scan an old out-of-copyright item, and you get no copyright. Take a photo of the map hanging on the wall in a frame - new information, you get a copyright on that photo because of the wall, frame, etc. But not the map.
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